Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. We will be going with something close to that. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. Absolutely love the matte finish. Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. Then go with water based and be done with it. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Try this color if you want a darker shade. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. That means you relate clean with shiny. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). We love our floors! @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. The light white washing will give you the raw look. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? I cannot find any locally. I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. I hope they hold up to daily use. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Do you have high ceilings ? If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE But that's just a quick guess. One other question. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? White streaks in floor. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. WebInformacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: qhhsubiquity.com, +13012001475, +13012001768, +13012001300 The Ubiquity The student news site of Quartz Hill High School Rift sawn white oak like we are referencing is not common at all in our location. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. Any help appreciated! They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Use natural seal. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. The coating should not come up. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. That means a single guy can take his time. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. It offers a bigger margin of profit. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. It's a installer issue. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. It was applied Saturday morning. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Thanks! Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. Do you think there is any major issue with this? Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. Thank you for your input. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. Gravity works. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. I think I would have done semi-gloss as a base and the matte as a final top coat or maybe satin as a top coat. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. Heres a photo of our family room. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. Look out for inexperience. Bona Naturale will also do this. This is part and parcel of your payment. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. We used 1 coat Bona Nordic and 2 coats Traffic HD in Satin. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. Which one did you end up going with? If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. The wood is from Cochrans Lumber in Berryville, VA. They have little to no chemical resistance. (Just read the dog drool threads.) Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Double cost any standard stained finish. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. Thank you. IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. The 'raw' look is a special look. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. Not change the raw color much, 2. Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information NO true Quartzite will etch. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Thank you for posting a picture! I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. He can work a section. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! It won't be cheap but it will be fast. I have about 735 sf. It requires a special approach. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? That's not what was happening. Those are STUNNING! The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). I have read so many wood floor horror stories. Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Not always as expected. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. Cant decide! It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. I have found some great inspirational pictures. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. Absolutely love the matte finish. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. And like all things "time is money". There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. They held up to move in with no major scratches. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. Your floors are beautiful. You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. Don't disagree with you at all. Get ready for a LONG story! (The Classic has less of a haze.) Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. If, you want a raw pale look. Wow sounds beautiful! Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. Thank you so much! My cabinets are a true white (forgot name of paint) and all of the Dekton with a white background was too gray. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. Finished with three matte protective coats. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Just seemed so right. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Which possibly suggests installation issue. Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. A red oak floor does not need sealant. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. This is a platform for people to help one another. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Matte looks a bit dull. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? In the finishing business, 'special' requires a bigger price tag. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. WebUsing Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Ever since greige became a big trend, people have been trying to lighten up their homes. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Thank you! They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). (followed by Traffic HD). and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). Its for a new build. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. and I wish we had another layer of protection. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. I will post pictures. I need to see the seal samples still but Ill post a picture of the finished floors in a week! professional finishes are sold in gallons only. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. thanks, All! If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. Any suggestions would be great. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. They both marked, but the oil was harder to see. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? See the before and afters and why we chose this color. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. Here are some of my samples. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. Thanks again! But I miss a slightly shiny floor. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. It may come in other thicknesses too. I bought the cleaning spay and renew oil for the cabinets. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Thank you for asking. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. For a house your size and a $50k budget. Your floors are as important as your roof. Sigh. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. You only need an inch. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. @tkgriff Love the floor. It still should not come off. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried.
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