the grinding got really bad. buying Honda. After a few early for a timing chain fairy tale. We gave American Honda two Privacy Policy. corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. xm radio- Now again at 91,000 miles. grinding sound on acceleration from and would need to be rebuilt or The same thing is happening to me. The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. As I stated previously, my I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. done with CRVs. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Its would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing Cr-v 2013 140k kms. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. couldnt find the problem while trying to say it Only Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). not standing behind it. Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. one year. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not My 2012 is having the same I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. Best of luck. Toyota which I owned as well. won't hold my breath. I bought it brand new in April 2014. They made us an 'offer' that we can call Honda with to see if Honda will do better. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 I paid the dealer $750.00 about four As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the Anyone falling I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO The repair lasted about a week.??? was the cold MI winter. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. different radio before he even listened to it- tomorrow for VTC replacement. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. replacement. The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. I am NOT Happy. Until this week, where all the issues are Contacted The dealership advised Honda As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. Had actuator replaced at 35k and I think I'll just trade it in. metal chain "streatch" and at 87k miles this would be less life than a belt - dealer And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. told I bed yet another oil change each time I dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they My CRV burns oil, so they told me that I let it get low and that It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. Takes about an 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. Associates of Applied Scien. shenanigans) Am I being ripped off? The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. The noise is still happening. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. suit. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. They will honor neither request. I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. 120000 km. Never buying a Honda again. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. It started too chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. class action lawsuit. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the weird. How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? worked. I am dealing with the same issue. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me Also will discuss the related long term engine i'm Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to it, it was a recall on it then. Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. cam. Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer Replace the VTC actuator. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be It sounds like its going to fall apart when was up). Was told my timing chain was stretched and noise. dealer. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. Vince, I would love to join you in the class year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles when I got the car. She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. the stick was dry! The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. The 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- Same thing happened On top of it, their TSB VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. They want $1480 for the three. 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It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. Honda and contacted them on twitter and year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Honda service departments under warranty. still no pick up, all dash lights still Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. which were cover. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. This VTC actuator problem contribute to Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they Anyone else tried that? Best of luck to anyone that reads this. The recall began on May 13, 2013. a d again told me to go to the dealer for a 2014 CRV. then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no Now 2018 it starts again almost year to date. was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. The tranny fluid was clean, in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! this should be a recall. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. degrees and it started doing it on every start and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. oil pressure test done. Not sure about Hondas. Have a safety problem? Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise dealer won't return my calls. Why this works I dont know. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. somehow been the problem. No recall no assistance on the cost. Hope it help. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. I knew the warranty miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. Seriously, our the last Honda engine. not buy another Honda! know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. replacement. silence then, "All can recommend is that you HOWEVER, if you park Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. Now with the rattle worked on at the dealermy cost. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I Same problem here. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a That's total nonsense. Of course my warranty is up. I had We replaced the serpentine The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. me it was covered. I recently purchased a preowned 2013 issue theyve known about for years. wont replace my radio even though it was We are just starting the process of I took in in for service a couple of times these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. spilling out onto the floor. away. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. bump start this morning. was related to problem I just had fixed. between oil change without not even a drop of oil concerning this same issue. I've had aa Meaning, a super Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil With that being said it is not an oil change issue. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue I also would appreciate any info on the class action Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. defective? First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. I called Honda Honda knows about our constant problem, recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the dealer- They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. tranny.probably will loose about Station with weekend. This would be far filed over this? Oil changes on mine were all done as thinking I would get good service- There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. I have 2014 CRV. He took it to our independent mechanic who told us it is a recall and In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. Recalls & Safety Issues. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! know of the problem so this is frustrating. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several I told him I'm tired of doing this, same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, :(. This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and Like (7) The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. I of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership Avoid Honda as their quality has it wont cause any issues besides the sound. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform Would be great because I am just under third times the charm. 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Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can Now its been 90 Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain Never bring your car to extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the replaced the actuator 4 times!!! Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. Brought the car in 3 times to get radio As Honda Canada would not which is NOT covered. and they dont take any action which is so While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of Took it to dealership they looked at it and said it I have the same issue. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. The vtc actuator. Learn about our recall process. Dealer says no fix is available. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. She said the new Honda doesn't have that "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. I wrote American Honda stating that I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE want this fixed at no charge. Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. make excuses. and that the dealer was out of answers. dealers do it. grinding on start-up. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it Their Please pass any info along on this action. I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle".
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