Maybe check your tape next time just to make sure you didnt measure 40 feet instead of 40 yards. In the summer, theyre basically playing everyday so I have to be cautious with sprint and strength volume. I have a 9yo who is a big kid for his age (411, 100lbs) and plays hockey, lacrosse, & soccer. 60 Yard & 30 Yard Dash. I have times from last year for our team. Ill take this article to my masters athlete friends and share. Look for a sprint coach who believes in alactic training. Hes very competitive and plays soccer, basketball, and football. Go to the PG website and look up the teams attending past or upcoming tournaments, and find out which teams or programs are nearby. Football coaches sometimes use the term track speed as a dog whistle for wimp speed. I dont want to over train him. Based on the above, the numbers from the blog seem fairly accurate. Most running backs clock it times between 4.40 and 4.70, with some running in the 4.30's and some running higher than 4.70. No way an 8 year old can run this fast. A closer look, however, reveals Clayton is different. The average punt covers about 40 yards, which is why it became an important distance for football sprints. Returning to the sport now, I was concerned that to get better at high jump (my chosen event in masters, am now a two-time national champion W55+) that Id have to do all that distance work. Ive been on Coach Kanes football staff for eleven years. What I found especially useful was the information you provided in regards to pulling, climbing exercisesfor example parachutes, uphill climbing. Contact their program and go watch their off season workouts. Hit scores are used as part of player evalution, you utilize their weight and speed to determine impact force. I know the rate of decreasing times cant continue, but its interesting to see how they track. I cannot emphasize this enough. I was thrilled when 2017 finally got below 7. Any udpates on your son's 60yd this year as a 17 year old? Story - while I was at PG this summer, I was speaking to a LOT of college coachesjust because I am very chatty. With this great interest in youth sports, you would think kids would be faster than ever. No one sprints in a state of fatigue. That makes total sense. I would rather he scored well in home to first, or got a great jump on a pitcher than ran great a 60 anyway (he was top 10 at NTIS last year in the 60 and all they cared about was the radar gun regardless of position). So the 14 year old who reportedly runs a 4.4 forty was basically one step behind one of the fastest ever football players of all time. Thanks for the feedback to the newbie. The biggest issue with the little kids has been the size of the field and swinging the BBCOR bat. I live on Long Island New York . If I had to guess, I'd guess he got recruited as a pitcher. Glad I wasted my time reading this and some of the other data. The 40-yard dash isn't a track event. 2 seasons ago, I had two athletes run four.73 on the same day. Finally, you'll never receive email notifications about content they create or likes they designate for your content. Anything more than this is counterproductive. Coaches Eye works so well with air play to the big screen tv. I don't use HIT scoresnot a fan of it and I think you have to test linear speed (as it helps to determine explosive strength and raw force production) and lateral speed. I remember running cross country and endless 400-laps in high school in the 70s for training though I was a sprinter and high jumper. Repetition using the correct techniques at a young age really helps; building blocks. Good luck to you in masters track & field. My DD is a 99 and ran a 2.9 stand 20 yard dash today at track practice. Check out Claytons 40 times in the graph below. Develop, fun, develop, fun, age appropriate coaches, and programs that are focused on developing will help your son immensely. I use shuttle runs, and a variety of drills and games as well, this was actually the first year I've included hit scores. After a few searches on the internet and not finding it, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you mean by adding FAT to your posted times, thank you, "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate", http://www.aisports.com/COMBRESULTS.HTM#RB, Powerlifting Workouts - Training Journals, Post Your Pictures and Introduce Yourself. I have been playing tennis for 20 years and I have seen parents push their kids to the limit. Kid, I wouldn't move your son, unless he REALLY wants to change schools. I have timed over 200,000 40s in my coaching career. Less than two percent of high school players go on to play Division 1 college baseball, but there are more opportunities at the other division levels. Hi, Wind-aided though. I think the 60 is not a baseball measurement anyway. Great post. Smoke, he met with the coach once, then worked out maybe 4 times on his own. OMG I am now running a 4.80 and im still 10. I love the fact that he always encourages relationships between sports and the betterment of kids. He's 6'1 and about 170still has a lot of filling out to do, so I'm sure his time might get down a tad bit more before its all said and done. Is a 4.5 40 fast? I dont have enough training awareness to recognize things he could do, other than just saying go faster. To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. Compensations become habits. Always possible that he touched 94, unfortunately we didn't see it. What does a D1 baseball pitcher look like? I've heard pop times are difficult at times to control as the catchers start "cheating". Look at the difference in his timing in the last two months from 26 seconds to 22 seconds. Most kids learn to play their sport but never learn to sprint. I have a 7 year old old daughter that can sprint. I had heard uphill climbing was great was speed. When it comes to midfielders, D1 college coaches tend to focus their recruiting efforts on shortstops, rather than athletes who strictly play second base. The fastest kids ran 3.3-3.5 range, next group 3.7-3.9 were some of our linebackers and fullbacks. Forum contains unread posts, Topic Icons: LMAO apparently they didnt catch that Chris Johnson and RG3 are running 4.2s NOW. and then he kills it. Tell me where to turn so that a good coach would look at my daughter and maybe send her to competitions among children 7-8 years old. Their age at the time of testing plays a big part of their results since one year to a 6 or 7 year old can mean a lot of growth and progress. We live in Palm Beach, Florida. Percentile Vertical Jump Pro-Agility Run 10-Yard Dash 40-Yard Dash Rank Inches Seconds Seconds Seconds 99 21.25 < 4.62 > 1.87 > 5.02 > 95 21 4.63 - 4.64 1.88 - 1.89 5.03 - 5.04 I was not fast 4.8 40yd. I am not sure if I have an incredibly fast 10 year old kid or what; however, my son ran a 40-yard dash at 5.1 seconds. This is an average of 4:34 per mile for 26.2 miles. Im not interested in things that slow you down. (gots to make money right). I was worried that we were overdoing the sports activities, but his doctor recommended that this is normal in 5 year old kids and that he should continue his sports activities. As a freshman, T.J. was my starting quarterback for a team that went 9-0, outscoring their opponents 458-38. Congratulations you have the fastest 7 year old in the hisotry of the human race. Active There are times when he doesnt feel like going to the club and we let him decide his schedule. Especially with a stupid sport coach that beats the hell out of the players. Video analysis is a part of every reputable sprint program. 1. Therefore, sprinting at max speed is the best way to train. Would you have more extended ref timings grid by ages available somewhere ? They were 10 last year. {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}Your submission failed. I don't look for just straight line speed numbers, I use a variety of methods during evals. Thank goodness great coaching minds have put the kibosh on that. I think it is very interesting to look at some of the top HS draft pick's PG profiles & pages when they have a deep history. You've seen video -- he's usually thefastest guy on the field, but he needed, and still could use, work on starting as well as basic work on form. I raced someone who could jump a half foot higher than me, he took like one step and gave up. But the kids that are there get better faster. -60 Yard Dash: 7.25 or below-Should be able to hit for power as well as average. I provide you these #s just as an illustration for what is possible in a short period of time. Let's dissect the 100 meters. I had to wait for mine to buy in before I was willing to spend the $$ ( he is 14). At that age, that's darn fast. Great post! And, perhaps the best reason to do this is as follows: little Johnny is a heck of a blocker and perfect for the offensive line. Jan 3, 2012. According to the ICCs both the 40-yard dash and vertical jump were reliable assessments for all age groups When looking at the CVs, it can be concluded that the 40-yard dash is more reliable than the vertical jump. You can also search past threads on the topic. I was really just tying to find out what would be considered a normal 20 yd time and fast one. Winning isn't everything, but the will to win is everything. I would only add that going to a school with a " strong " HS program can help but only if you arent a bench warmer. Parents invest. Having an above average first step can make a runner who is an average 6.9-7.1 into a plus player. 200M 23.71 FAT The best we have seen is 81 last year. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. CF with a big bat.certainly didn't hurt himself in front of the scouts with that performance. Well Done. Good luck getting 8 guys to show up for the M95 100 meter dash. What skills do D1 college coaches look for when recruiting first basemen? They recommended that there is no special sprint training at the club. None of those 169 draftees, other than Caleb Benenoch (his published splits point to a possible error at the second gate), were able to break 2.00 seconds from 20-40 yards. Not only will it enhance performance, but it will dramatically decrease injuries if the athlete learns how to sprint. Old 4 year old: 9.0just did this one today. 110HH 15.10 FAT (Save the 400m for a later date) . It is one of the reasons coaches caution showcasing early. Im a sophomore in highschool and started to really focus on my speed last year. I have additional scores that would put it over 5000 but I have not had time to enter it all. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. Solved In my experience Ive not seen one kid specialize that went on to the level they thought they wanted to go to! They may be running relatively fast, but theyre not sprinting. 2. I also hope you post that question to the board. If you are pushing things, pulling things, running slowly uphill, or running with parachutes, your contact time wont be 0.08. A "Good" 10-Yard Split Time (1.56-1.59) Gaines Adams, Buccaneers: 1.58 (2007) Derrick Harvey, Jaguars: 1.59 (2008) An "Average" 10-Yard Split Time (1.60-1.62) Kamerion Wimbley, Raiders: 1.60 (2006) Bruce Davis, Patriots: 1.62 (2008) A "Below Average" 10-Yard Split Times (1.63-1.69) Charles Johnson, Panthers: 1.63 (2007) THE ADAGIO FLOW MACHINE -a Stress Management Technique for Music Therapy; . Tony retired from teaching chemistry after 38 years in the classroom and has 39 years of coaching experience (football, basketball, and track). Thanks 2019Dad. His team still has that 4'11 and 80# kid, so your son is not miles behind. After a while, I was starting to think that I should move up and start doing 800m more but then I started doing a speed school and focused on top speed and acceleration. As far as times go, if your roster is set, then it really is only relative to your team. I Reckon I Am 11 And I Can Run 32kph in speed not distance. 40 yard dash: 5.60 Go Get Faster Anyway (A Four-Week Speed Training Plan), Curved Treadmills: Pros and Cons That You Should Know, Top 10 Resistance Band Exercises Athletes Should Use, CVASPS Seminar Q&A Series: Boo Schexnayder, Preventing ACL and Achilles Injuries with Elastic Strength Training, Cody Hughes: Student-Athlete Preparation Podcast. The dummy fip measures explosive strength but it also allows me to see what kids like contact and are aggressive. I've heard this a LOT. . go to da moon copy and paste. What makes that difficult for many recruits is that some coaches are willing to project earlier than others and athletes develop on different timelines. Your results from the 20 yard dash show that this other kid is faster and just as good of a running back. But when i see that at th end of th first training session, he gained 0.7 seconds on 15m sprint (3.16s, 17km/h), it puts me in an optimistic mood. You have to play. Anytime. All times in article are handheld. I kept a scrapbook, not a Twitter account. Are these good times and distances. Only 4 days of varsity tryouts and 1 day of fielding and 3 days hitting. Plyometrics must be included. 40 (2) = Second 40-yard dash time per NFL Network coverage 40 (O) = Official 40-yard dash time from NFL Network coverage and NFL.com 10 (1) = First 10-yard split time per NFL Network coverage This is from a coach who has timed 100's over 20 years. She's 5-3 or 5-4 and is a muscular 135. I was curious as to what would be normal and what would be considered fast. He was busy and so were the coaches I tried to get him to, so before HF he was able to get in just one session with a speed coach, and then he worked on the stuff the coach gave him for a couple weeks. If in fact he trained for a single drill, then he had someone really stupid giving him advice (except for maybe the last showcase when he brought the fastball). . 12 seconds is fast for any age in the 100. Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level OBP: .500 Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source) ERA below 2.00 Division 2 Height: 6'0" Weight: 180 lbs. Could you answer a question for me? I personally like to do a football speed time where I have the players holding a football and make two cuts during the run. You'd better be careful of kids "watching the stop watch," trying to overrun and blowing out their knee. No one walks or dogs at anything. All she cares about is being fast, oh and loving Jesus. I am member of US lacrosse and football USAA certified coach in both. Alactic training is maximum intensity work for less than ten seconds followed by enough rest to repeat the effort on the next attempt. SPEED 60-Yard Dash Times (In Seconds) 80 . I would be curious to see that. Plyometrics must be included. Clayton comes from an athletic family and has played soccer, baseball, and flag football. Training and maintaining proper posture along with spinal erector strength development have made our team FAST. These times are very accurate as the data is polled not only from my teams but teams from all across the country and coaches that personally know. My advice to athletic-minded parents: Teach your kid to sprint. Good sprint coaches are data-driven. Wicket drills (running over mini-hurdles) is a staple of sprint training. My wife is a doctor. *The athlete runs the race twice, and his best time is recorded to the nearest two decimals (for example, a time of 4.453 should be recorded as 4.45). The following average times were measured between 2000 and 2012 at the NFL combine for players who played at least 5 games. Unapproved The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. JavaScript is disabled. Your supposed time translates to around a 4.1 40 yard dash which would break Deion Sanders . That is pretty darn fast. Got this from coach Jackson at Poteet a while back. This is data on times based on thirteen years (since 2009) and just over 3000 kids. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Its 8th grade so its a crap shoot every year. Speed relates to many athletic endeavors that utilize speed and power. I am not sure about the average improvement in the 60 each year but I know that you can expect to get faster as you mature in high school. Assume ready position behind line and start stopwatch when first foot hits the ground after start. Has nothing to do with youth times, but my son's teammate on his college summer team ran a 6.34 and 6.40 sixty at the league showcase on Tuesday. Thank You for the article. On average, their front 20 yards clocked in at 2.85, while their back 20 came in at 2.06. Top Quarterback 40-yard dash times. to accuse someone of lying? All of these are timed and then I add the times together and the lowest total times are the best athletes on the team. Mine was 3x week. Old 2 year old: 13.3 Johnny is the starting right guard (or wherever on the line) and the backup running back. Recruits need to show the strength, speed and general athleticism to make the jump. Thanks again for another great article Tony. We add in acceleration work with the sled and chute, but I use a very slight down hill for his top speed work. That said, I usually dont start the watch til she begins moving and run next to her so my timing might be off by 0.2 or sothough I feel like I usually wait til she goes through the line a little to stop. I didnt compete against teams from other towns until 7th grade. His exit velocity(ball leaving the bat) went from 82 to 89-90 mph. Or what? My prodigious offspring runs a 5.2 60 as a 15 y/o while dragging an obdurate mule behind him. If we were to use the information people send us it would be a mess. As soon as you accept this, it all becomes clear. 20 yard - for speed (most linear runs are just under 20 yards (routes/pursuit/edge runs) 40 yard - breakaway speed (tells me who has the extra gear) 10 and 20 are what I look at the most when I eval kids. purpose: The aim of this test is to determine . Compare yourself with the chart below. Accept small gains. 2002-2023 NCSA College Recruiting All Rights Reserved. Without sprint training, soccer breeds horrible sprint mechanics and slow runners. When you say the school has a poor program I assume you mean the coaching is not from a very experienced coach and the team is not very competitive. My guess is that if you were to measure only the control group (only the players who posted the 7.85 average for the 2021 class) through each year, you may see numbers closer to the blog's. And I dont have an amazing start. Thanks for your attention! It also drives me crazy when they compare dunking to sprinting. I could easily see the same thing on home to first drills. You mention pulling pushing climbing as badwhats your opinion on resistance bands? T.J. Kane was a typical athletic kid. If they are looking at catchers, they probably put eyes on several, but may go to the stat sheet to see how the pop times compared and who they might have missed. I had several in the 4.0 range including a 10 year old @135lbs. Im sure shell plateau big time at some point but its fun to go out and do once a year. If the player is not willing to put in time away from the instructor, you are mostly wasting your $$. Why? 1.41 meter long jump I run a two week camp in the summer. Great article! I can tell what kids know how to block/hit/tackle by watching this drill. The equation squares a player's 40-time, 20-yard shuttle, and 3-cone and multiplies it by the square of a player's height, arm length, and vertical jump . Considering though that shes only in the 50th percentile so far as height, that seems pretty solid. What is the best way for high school catchers to market themselves to D1 college coaches? Sounds like your typical athletic kid. Pitchers looking to play at the D1 level should aim to reach an ERA below 2.00. The grind has nothing to do with sprinting. Tony, do you have age based tables on the 40 yard dash? One of the difficulties is to fond timing references grids. When kids compete for an hour, theyre never sprinting. The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. John Ross holds the official electronic record at 4.22 seconds. He is widely considered one of the fastest defensive backs of all time and the NFL combine does not run in pads. What will often separate recruits in the mind of coaches is how serious a prospect takes their sport. I have read your 400m article and feel your pain about not reaching your full potential because a coach ran you into the ground with repeat 400s. I know he is fast, but we'll see what translates down the road. Washington offered her based on softball and basketball. My son's program is often a top ten state program and even the guys headed to div 1 had to do showcases and travel team events to be seen. Did the timer say "go" or start the clock when the runner started? So Ur Doin Rlly Well For A 9 Yr Old! Hand held time. In todays era of slow motion video on every iPhone, its inexcusable to train without video. Thanks for the input as I always look for ways to improve my coaching skills. My best event was the 400m which went from a 60 hand-timed to a 54.15 FAT timed. The 75 running backs had an average 10-yard split of 1.57 seconds at the combine and 1.57 seconds at their pro days. | At the high school level, the 40-Yard Dash is usually timed by hand, meaning a person with a stopwatch clocks your 40. Copyright 2023 SimpliFaster. That is, there are far fewer players attending PG showcases and having a 60 time recorded at the younger age than the metrics reported in the older ages. average 20 yard dash time by age chart . Ive got to say that I love so many of the things you said and the way you said them. http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/ATHELTIC_SPEED_TIMES_FOR_KIDS_Age_5_to_14.docx. Out of 30 kids we had 3 in the top group and ten in the next group. Required fields are marked *. This article is misleading at best. Most importantly, the mechanics of proper stride, arm swing, start position, body angle & several other factors have now been added to his run mechanics moving forward. Former D1 baseball player and NJCAA coach Nelson Gord breaks down what skills D1 college coaches look for in both right-handed and left-handed pitchers. Posted on . This year I was trying to compile times and weights of my players in an attempt to formulate Hit Scores. This improvement was noted immediately after the growth spurt. If someone gave you that time seriously both you and them are deluded. MLB average also? Parents strategize. average 40 yard dash time by age chart female. If you can get a decent 40yd time, youll have little trouble doing 100m. Competition and measured efforts take athletes to new levels. Great article thanks for all the sprinting information. And that is still not understood in the rehab world. Good luck to you guys next week, hope he hit's it. And yes, I won't veer from the thread anymore than I already have. ?. Average 40 Yard Dash Time By Age Average 40 Yard Dash Time by Age Several different factors can affect the average 40 yard dash time of a person, including genetics and physical Read More. SF. My 7-year-old daughter is very good at sprinting 100 meters. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Who are the coaches? She runs 100 meters in 14 seconds. He ran the 6.34 first.the scouts all thought they timed him wrong so they had him run again. 20 yard bear crawl is a good measure of body strength, agility/dexterity, and core strength. The unfortunate thing is that we are going to have to make decisions about high school soon as his small private school that he loveshas a very poor program. 7.Throwing Velocity measured by the use of a radar gun The athlete makes a maximum of five overhand throws with a regulation softball, on flat ground. Some non-starters are being recruited by div. A 2020 study tested the . Soccer is an endurance sport. Although, I agree that max sprinting is effective, studies have shown that resistance training using sleds, parachutes, and resistance bands have improved speed at a faster rate than those who train without. The best way to get fast is to join the track team. He also play tennis every other day. Similarly, the average 20-yard split was 2.61 seconds at the combine and 2.62 seconds at their pro days. Thanks for the perspective. 1.45 seconds. Also wanted to add that I spoke to a pro scout recently who said he oncepersonally clocked Ichiro at 3.25 from home to first. My guy's was more along the lines of Go44's thoughts. He is currently 5 years and 2 months. My take on home to 1st is that scouts tend to collect this information on those kids they think it may make a difference. 100M 11.71 HH 20 yard Pro Agility 6 Tire Zig Zag Is that good? Local boy posted an 89 at a showcase, but 2 weeks before he posted a 90 at a PG game, the 90 is what is listed as his best. Like you said in the article, kids rarely fully sprint during practice, so am I on the right track by having his do speed and acceleration work on his off days? [19] References [ edit] Remember, sprinters pick up their feet, lift their knees, and then deliver vertical force.
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